Comments on: Property Professionals Administration – what should I do? http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:34:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jeff Scott http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-21754 Jeff Scott Sat, 29 May 2010 10:14:04 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-21754 I fully understand your frustration, is was (cannot speak for Stroma) imposible to complete in the given time scale as PP (Home inspector training) where geared to prolong the training to make more money. Since their demise it has taken me 5 months to get my portfolio signed off (didn't need any work) As a committee member of the RPSA we have put on the back burner any form of legal restitution - as it will be long winded, and expensive. Instead we have gone for creating work fields for Home Inspectors - a pilot is being run out in June on the strength of the outcome it will be run out nationaly. With the demise of HIPs the HIP companies are looking for another avenue -HCS!!!!. Many institutes are turning towards the take up of HCSs so although the Government did notmake them mandatory it looks like they will come in through the back door. It will be about August before any conclusive news will be forthcoming. I fully understand your frustration, is was (cannot speak for Stroma) imposible to complete in the given time scale as PP (Home inspector training) where geared to prolong the training to make more money. Since their demise it has taken me 5 months to get my portfolio signed off (didn’t need any work)
As a committee member of the RPSA we have put on the back burner any form of legal restitution – as it will be long winded, and expensive. Instead we have gone for creating work fields for Home Inspectors – a pilot is being run out in June on the strength of the outcome it will be run out nationaly.
With the demise of HIPs the HIP companies are looking for another avenue -HCS!!!!. Many institutes are turning towards the take up of HCSs so although the Government did notmake them mandatory it looks like they will come in through the back door.
It will be about August before any conclusive news will be forthcoming.

]]> By: Pam http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-20932 Pam Sat, 22 May 2010 19:53:45 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-20932 I fail to understand how ABBE could close their eyes to the fact that PP+ had so many criminal cases and complaints against them and still allow them to trade. A lot of people have lost a lot of money because of PP+'s negligence putting them into a lot of debt and for me personally it took them so long to enrol me on the next module it was impossible to complete the course within the 8 months and this is what Barclays are holding you to so as not to compensate you for the money. I am going all the way to be reimbursed for the money I have put in because it was a lot of money that I did not have. I hope Barclays are ready for the backlash that will be coming. I am not interested in Storma because I now have no faith in PP or Storma (as far as I am concerned they are PP in disguise). I fail to understand how ABBE could close their eyes to the fact that PP+ had so many criminal cases and complaints against them and still allow them to trade. A lot of people have lost a lot of money because of PP+’s negligence putting them into a lot of debt and for me personally it took them so long to enrol me on the next module it was impossible to complete the course within the 8 months and this is what Barclays are holding you to so as not to compensate you for the money. I am going all the way to be reimbursed for the money I have put in because it was a lot of money that I did not have. I hope Barclays are ready for the backlash that will be coming. I am not interested in Storma because I now have no faith in PP or Storma (as far as I am concerned they are PP in disguise).

]]> By: Jeff Scott http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-16414 Jeff Scott Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:50:07 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-16414 Hi Phillip I completly understand your sceptisism. This is not happening over night. FPIP got my details via SAVA whom I an regeristard with. Subject to learning, a trail run is taking place in June and subject to how that performs it will be unfolded nationally latter in the summer. DEAs will not as there is tomany of them (about 5 times), there is a shortfall of domestic surveyors of around 6,000 - that includes RICS Sorry I am not sure what is ment by your next paragraph. What I can say is RPSA is working to pull solicitors (as it is their duty to inform buyers)and estate agents into seeing the vertue of the HCR. Which magazine is also on board (which it wasn't with RICS original surveys). RPSA is also looking at providing avertising + ad packages and courses and support for its members to source work independantly. RPSA is £120 a year (£10 a month), I paid alot more to SAVA- honestly cannot remeber (will have to look it up).If you want work from RICS you will have to pay to be a member but fist you have to get ARICS (£450). I looked at it this way - to what I have already paid out is it worth giving it a chance or do I jack it all in? This is the line of work I want to be in - I understand your reservations, I just decided to be positive Hi Phillip

I completly understand your sceptisism. This is not happening over night.
FPIP got my details via SAVA whom I an regeristard with.

Subject to learning, a trail run is taking place in June and subject to how that performs it will be unfolded nationally latter in the summer.

DEAs will not as there is tomany of them (about 5 times), there is a shortfall of domestic surveyors of around 6,000 – that includes RICS

Sorry I am not sure what is ment by your next paragraph. What I can say is RPSA is working to pull solicitors (as it is their duty to inform buyers)and estate agents into seeing the vertue of the HCR. Which magazine is also on board (which it wasn’t with RICS original surveys).
RPSA is also looking at providing avertising + ad packages and courses and support for its members to source work independantly.
RPSA is £120 a year (£10 a month), I paid alot more to SAVA- honestly cannot remeber (will have to look it up).If you want work from RICS you will have to pay to be a member but fist you have to get ARICS (£450).
I looked at it this way – to what I have already paid out is it worth giving it a chance or do I jack it all in?
This is the line of work I want to be in – I understand your reservations, I just decided to be positive

]]> By: Phillip http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-16410 Phillip Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:07:02 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-16410 Hi Jeff, Am afraid i remain very sceptical though with good reason from what i am witnessing in the aftermath of this disgraace. How did FPIP get your details to send you a letter? Subject to learning, is that meaning more training and more money? It has direct relationship with 16,000 solicitors sounds similar to our sister company will give you work. I have spoken to DEAs who are not doing 1 EPC per day which makes your claims of 1 HCR a day a bit ridiculous if you do the sums. It is starting to smell a bit fishy to me but i will reserve judgement completely to a hear the complete story. Does sound as if they are saying pay us more money and we will provide you with a return. Granted i bet it is small fry compared to the sums i and others have already paid. Hi Jeff,

Am afraid i remain very sceptical though with good reason from what i am witnessing in the aftermath of this disgraace.

How did FPIP get your details to send you a letter?

Subject to learning, is that meaning more training and more money?

It has direct relationship with 16,000 solicitors sounds similar to our sister company will give you work.

I have spoken to DEAs who are not doing 1 EPC per day which makes your claims of 1 HCR a day a bit ridiculous if you do the sums.

It is starting to smell a bit fishy to me but i will reserve judgement completely to a hear the complete story. Does sound as if they are saying pay us more money and we will provide you with a return. Granted i bet it is small fry compared to the sums i and others have already paid.

]]> By: Jeff Scott http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-16342 Jeff Scott Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:50:34 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-16342 W Alexander - sorry to hear of your misfortune, I only found out myself when SAVA sent me a message from FPIP, luckier than others I was at the end of the training, though I have still had to find another provider for finaisation. For those prospective HIs out there. RPSA has sent out a news letter (1 a month). It is rolling out a pilot exercise to be followed by a national initiative (subject to learning) in the summer. It has direct relationships with 16,000 law firms and have set a target of 1 condition report a day for members through reports of SAVA and BRE,if we want to do RICS report we have to be members. There are some very infuencial people working in the background for the HIs, One is mentioned by this site at the beging of its artical. The news letter is rather long and contains alot more information over different topics, but I thought this would be of the most interest to you. W Alexander – sorry to hear of your misfortune, I only found out myself when SAVA sent me a message from FPIP, luckier than others I was at the end of the training, though I have still had to find another provider for finaisation.

For those prospective HIs out there. RPSA has sent out a news letter (1 a month). It is rolling out a pilot exercise to be followed by a national initiative (subject to learning) in the summer. It has direct relationships with 16,000 law firms and have set a target of 1 condition report a day for members through reports of SAVA and BRE,if we want to do RICS report we have to be members.
There are some very infuencial people working in the background for the HIs, One is mentioned by this site at the beging of its artical.
The news letter is rather long and contains alot more information over different topics, but I thought this would be of the most interest to you.

]]> By: w alexander http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-16261 w alexander Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:34:06 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-16261 Hello everybody, well i cannot believe it, i registered back in nov 08, i have got as far as my third module which i have attended but could not pass the end of module test for some unknown reason but cost me £20 each time as you know plus travelling expenses which at the end of the day adds up, i am self employed and work has been for the last year non existant nearly thats why i'm a bit behind with training and was going to apply for another end of module test and blow me down, no such number, tried to get on website, could not find then in the corner of my eye i noticed 'GONE INTO ADMINISTRATION', WHAT? I have been reading many comments and am absolutely astounded in finding PP have been a dishonourable organisation. I was training to level 3 non DEA, has cost me £5,800 + books and travelling like many more people, my hard earned cash has gone in a blink of an eye, this could have paid my mortgage for a year. Who do these people think they are? messing peoples lives up, fair enough there maybe alternative training company's, but who wants to pay even more money into a system where it is completely saturated with energy assessors anyway, looks like i'm jumping on the band wagon along with everybody else to see if i can be reimbursed, good luck everyone and here's hoping. Hello everybody, well i cannot believe it, i registered back in nov 08, i have got as far as my third module which i have attended but could not pass the end of module test for some unknown reason but cost me £20 each time as you know plus travelling expenses which at the end of the day adds up, i am self employed and work has been for the last year non existant nearly thats why i’m a bit behind with training and was going to apply for another end of module test and blow me down, no such number, tried to get on website, could not find then in the corner of my eye i noticed ‘GONE INTO ADMINISTRATION’, WHAT? I have been reading many comments and am absolutely astounded in finding PP have been a dishonourable organisation. I was training to level 3 non DEA, has cost me £5,800 + books and travelling like many more people, my hard earned cash has gone in a blink of an eye, this could have paid my mortgage for a year. Who do these people think they are? messing peoples lives up, fair enough there maybe alternative training company’s, but who wants to pay even more money into a system where it is completely saturated with energy assessors anyway, looks like i’m jumping on the band wagon along with everybody else to see if i can be reimbursed, good luck everyone and here’s hoping.

]]> By: Jeff Scott http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-15823 Jeff Scott Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:32:12 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-15823 Barclays does not provide the training they suppy the finance through an agreament with PP - like buying a car. I feel for your son and everyone - including myself but that does not help. It is highly unlikely that you will get your money back - would you with a car. If not his only option is to loose it or transfer to another training provider. ABBA Emailed a list of such providers (some no longer do the course).I suggested BRE or SAVA as they are reputable and regulation authorities. Example PP offered training in valuation at £1,500.00 - RICs do it for £450.00. RPSA is an offshoot of FPIP- AHIP but is only for Home Inspectors or those wishing to become Home Inspectors, it is in its early stages of its formulation but is working with RICS,SAVA,NHER,BRE - which is something new to the industry. They are working to provide avenues for the Home Inspector (membership) and although nothing can be said for certain - the outlook is promissing, I hasten to use "very" as I do not want to build hopes up to much at this stage. Howerver I am a member and a committee member and if I did not think there was a future I would not be. I am committed to making a living in surveying. Incidentally non of us are paid on the committee and we all pay our own costs - which is a struggle. I hope your son can move forward, its not easy I know. RPSA membership is £10 per month - I know more money, But as I said previously I believe it will be worth it. One thing that has come out of this is that surveys will have to be willing to travell, if you only want to work in a twenty min radius of home - forget it, it will not happen I have actualy met several (not alot) of people making a living already out of this qualification so it is possible. Yes to those who have asked, RPSA will be looking at co-ordinating work and proccessing it through its membership. Barclays does not provide the training they suppy the finance through an agreament with PP – like buying a car. I feel for your son and everyone – including myself but that does not help. It is highly unlikely that you will get your money back – would you with a car. If not his only option is to loose it or transfer to another training provider. ABBA Emailed a list of such providers (some no longer do the course).I suggested BRE or SAVA as they are reputable and regulation authorities. Example PP offered training in valuation at £1,500.00 – RICs do it for £450.00.
RPSA is an offshoot of FPIP- AHIP but is only for Home Inspectors or those wishing to become Home Inspectors, it is in its early stages of its formulation but is working with RICS,SAVA,NHER,BRE – which is something new to the industry. They are working to provide avenues for the Home Inspector (membership) and although nothing can be said for certain – the outlook is promissing, I hasten to use “very” as I do not want to build hopes up to much at this stage. Howerver I am a member and a committee member and if I did not think there was a future I would not be. I am committed to making a living in surveying. Incidentally non of us are paid on the committee and we all pay our own costs – which is a struggle.
I hope your son can move forward, its not easy I know.
RPSA membership is £10 per month – I know more money, But as I said previously I believe it will be worth it. One thing that has come out of this is that surveys will have to be willing to travell, if you only want to work in a twenty min radius of home – forget it, it will not happen
I have actualy met several (not alot) of people making a living already out of this qualification so it is possible.
Yes to those who have asked, RPSA will be looking at co-ordinating work and proccessing it through its membership.

]]> By: D. Kelly http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-15776 D. Kelly Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:12:16 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-15776 J. Scott. Sorry for being angry and negative. Just looking after my son. He does not want Barclays to provide anymore training. He just wants £8800 back for a missold product. Which he tried to cancel 2mths into course. What is RPSA. J. Scott. Sorry for being angry and negative. Just looking after my son. He does not want Barclays to provide anymore training. He just wants £8800 back for a missold product.
Which he tried to cancel 2mths into course.
What is RPSA.

]]> By: Karl http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-15764 Karl Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:52:14 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-15764 Hi Jeff what sort of work is it that RPSA will be providing? is it surveying work as per the home inspector qualification. Are you saying you must join to get this work? Similar to Phillip i would appreciate some more information Hi Jeff

what sort of work is it that RPSA will be providing? is it surveying work as per the home inspector qualification. Are you saying you must join to get this work?

Similar to Phillip i would appreciate some more information

]]> By: Phillip http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/property-professionals-administration-what-should-i-do-123/comment-page-1/#comment-15763 Phillip Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:17:05 +0000 http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/?p=2029#comment-15763 I was caught up in PP scandal can you tell me a little more about RPSA and where the feed of work will come from? To date it seems a waste of time continuing and everyone just seems to want more money from us. However, if there is truly a good level of work i would be interested. I was caught up in PP scandal can you tell me a little more about RPSA and where the feed of work will come from?

To date it seems a waste of time continuing and everyone just seems to want more money from us. However, if there is truly a good level of work i would be interested.

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