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		<title>By: HIPs a shame for the property market?</title>
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		<dc:creator>HIPs a shame for the property market?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] studies, our business has certainly seen an increase of properties coming to market since the removal of HIPs in May of this year. However, the number of sellers have increased but so has the number of sellers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] studies, our business has certainly seen an increase of properties coming to market since the removal of HIPs in May of this year. However, the number of sellers have increased but so has the number of sellers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: linni</title>
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		<dc:creator>linni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a society, we should feel sorry for ALL who lose their jobs as a result of government policy, and this includes HIP providers just as much as it does manufacturing workers.

This isn&#039;t just bleeding heart stuff - the economy depends on people being in work, as with less people working, the less tax is paid. Not just income tax either, but the VAT take falls since the jobless cannot afford to spend on anything but essentials (which are rated at a lower, or sometimes zero, VAT rate).

The last time this lot were in power we had massive job losses, possibly because they didn&#039;t bother to think through the results of their buying decisions - regularly choosing American suppliers instead of the local option. Unemployment is now reported to be over 2.5 million, for the first time since 1994, but back then, they did it all by themselves - there was no world economic crisis for them to blame it on. 

This may just be the first of many massive job losses caused by lack of thinking in Whitehall.  I worry how high the jobless total will rise under the Tories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a society, we should feel sorry for ALL who lose their jobs as a result of government policy, and this includes HIP providers just as much as it does manufacturing workers.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t just bleeding heart stuff &#8211; the economy depends on people being in work, as with less people working, the less tax is paid. Not just income tax either, but the VAT take falls since the jobless cannot afford to spend on anything but essentials (which are rated at a lower, or sometimes zero, VAT rate).</p>
<p>The last time this lot were in power we had massive job losses, possibly because they didn&#8217;t bother to think through the results of their buying decisions &#8211; regularly choosing American suppliers instead of the local option. Unemployment is now reported to be over 2.5 million, for the first time since 1994, but back then, they did it all by themselves &#8211; there was no world economic crisis for them to blame it on. </p>
<p>This may just be the first of many massive job losses caused by lack of thinking in Whitehall.  I worry how high the jobless total will rise under the Tories.</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annoyed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would people feel sorry for the HIP people who will be out of a job.  No different to any other industry, steel, cars etc so hope they don&#039;t get preferential treatment.  No-one stepped in to claim compensation for us when my husband lost his job (through no fault of his own).  Lets hope the government don&#039;t get brow-beaten by these people and stick to their guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would people feel sorry for the HIP people who will be out of a job.  No different to any other industry, steel, cars etc so hope they don&#8217;t get preferential treatment.  No-one stepped in to claim compensation for us when my husband lost his job (through no fault of his own).  Lets hope the government don&#8217;t get brow-beaten by these people and stick to their guns.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who made money, a lot of money, out of this whole HIPS scheme were the myriad consultants, training providers, software developers and middlemen who fleeced both the government and the assessors out of millions. Their investments were repaid in full with interest, while the losers are left with worthless &quot;qualifications&quot; they paid through the nose to acquire, and a hole in the public finances that we certainly didn&#039;t need in the current economic climate.

The consultants in particular, ruthlessly exploited the opportunity to cash in on the HIPS gravy train, on one hand, being paid by the taxpayer to help draft the legislation and operational procedures. While on the other, the companies they worked for, owned, or had alliances with, enjoyed hugely advantageous prior knowledge of the proposed system, giving them an unassailable position in the market once the scheme was launched.

The prices charged for &quot;training&quot;, accreditation, administration, and processing were borderline obscene, and the schemes they developed were tailored to deny competitors the opportunity to drive down these costs.

On several occasions I attempted to expose what was really going on through freedom of information requests to DCLG, but they refused to release the details of the internal meetings they had with these &quot;consultants&quot;. The last response I received was in September 2007, and it stated:

&quot;Further to my letter of 29 August, we need to extend our response time limit by a further 20 working days to give us time to assess whether the public interest in withholding the information outweighs the public interest in disclosing it.
The specific qualified exemptions we are considering in relation to your request are under Section 35: Formulation and Development of Government Policy and Section 36: Prejudice to the Effective Conduct of Public Affairs.
Therefore, we plan to let you have a response by 26 October.&quot;

I did not receive any response on 26 October.

Ruth Kelly &amp; Yvette Cooper worked hand in hand with these companies, perhaps one day the truth will come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who made money, a lot of money, out of this whole HIPS scheme were the myriad consultants, training providers, software developers and middlemen who fleeced both the government and the assessors out of millions. Their investments were repaid in full with interest, while the losers are left with worthless &#8220;qualifications&#8221; they paid through the nose to acquire, and a hole in the public finances that we certainly didn&#8217;t need in the current economic climate.</p>
<p>The consultants in particular, ruthlessly exploited the opportunity to cash in on the HIPS gravy train, on one hand, being paid by the taxpayer to help draft the legislation and operational procedures. While on the other, the companies they worked for, owned, or had alliances with, enjoyed hugely advantageous prior knowledge of the proposed system, giving them an unassailable position in the market once the scheme was launched.</p>
<p>The prices charged for &#8220;training&#8221;, accreditation, administration, and processing were borderline obscene, and the schemes they developed were tailored to deny competitors the opportunity to drive down these costs.</p>
<p>On several occasions I attempted to expose what was really going on through freedom of information requests to DCLG, but they refused to release the details of the internal meetings they had with these &#8220;consultants&#8221;. The last response I received was in September 2007, and it stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Further to my letter of 29 August, we need to extend our response time limit by a further 20 working days to give us time to assess whether the public interest in withholding the information outweighs the public interest in disclosing it.<br />
The specific qualified exemptions we are considering in relation to your request are under Section 35: Formulation and Development of Government Policy and Section 36: Prejudice to the Effective Conduct of Public Affairs.<br />
Therefore, we plan to let you have a response by 26 October.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did not receive any response on 26 October.</p>
<p>Ruth Kelly &amp; Yvette Cooper worked hand in hand with these companies, perhaps one day the truth will come out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ducado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ducado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 21:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, many got into the HIP industry in the hope of making a quick buck (most failed) it was a political move to have it in the first place, and lets be honest without the HCR it was pretty worthless, but the HCR could never happen because there were not enough people to carry it out (lots of Burger flippers paid a fortune to be trained).

It was a stated Conservative policy to get rid, and if most are honest the public will not miss them one bit.

My advice for the poor sods caught up in this is, don&#039;t get a job that depends on controversial legislation there is always a chance that the next government will scrap it. 

Sorry about your loss, but you will have to move on from this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, many got into the HIP industry in the hope of making a quick buck (most failed) it was a political move to have it in the first place, and lets be honest without the HCR it was pretty worthless, but the HCR could never happen because there were not enough people to carry it out (lots of Burger flippers paid a fortune to be trained).</p>
<p>It was a stated Conservative policy to get rid, and if most are honest the public will not miss them one bit.</p>
<p>My advice for the poor sods caught up in this is, don&#8217;t get a job that depends on controversial legislation there is always a chance that the next government will scrap it. </p>
<p>Sorry about your loss, but you will have to move on from this</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well they have gone but the smile will go when VAT is up to 20% which adds to Est Agent fees etc. Then we have capital gains tax predicted to go to 40% from 18%. House prices will drop drastically and the looming hike in interest rates which China is reportedly planning to raise due to high inflation - this will boomerang to the West and bang goes the housing market when % rates have to compete here in the UK. Sad period it will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well they have gone but the smile will go when VAT is up to 20% which adds to Est Agent fees etc. Then we have capital gains tax predicted to go to 40% from 18%. House prices will drop drastically and the looming hike in interest rates which China is reportedly planning to raise due to high inflation &#8211; this will boomerang to the West and bang goes the housing market when % rates have to compete here in the UK. Sad period it will be.</p>
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		<title>By: ljc01char</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljc01char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To voice of truth, so glad you find the whole thing funny just for a second in your sad little world think of the families that this has affected and the business, oh well there goes VAT Corporation Tax receipts,and looks like the deprive child payament will come in handy, I only hope you are one of the many who voted the mad mans in and forgot about the last time they were in and the state of the country. Now council housing, no industry what a legacy!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To voice of truth, so glad you find the whole thing funny just for a second in your sad little world think of the families that this has affected and the business, oh well there goes VAT Corporation Tax receipts,and looks like the deprive child payament will come in handy, I only hope you are one of the many who voted the mad mans in and forgot about the last time they were in and the state of the country. Now council housing, no industry what a legacy!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: voice of truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>voice of truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this won&#039;t be published. but I would just like to say, goodbye and good riddance to you and your corrupt, money grabbing, wasteful and pointless industry. I have not laughed so hard since Kevin Keegan fell off his bike in Superstars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this won&#8217;t be published. but I would just like to say, goodbye and good riddance to you and your corrupt, money grabbing, wasteful and pointless industry. I have not laughed so hard since Kevin Keegan fell off his bike in Superstars.</p>
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		<title>By: NewHomesUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewHomesUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

Anti-HIP sentiment does appear to be dominating housing forums as well as the mainstream media! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Anti-HIP sentiment does appear to be dominating housing forums as well as the mainstream media!</p>
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